Moral of the story? Reviews. I don't have any issues with TRP rotors but the stock brake pads suck. Yeap, we're up in your social medias too. I have a good seated position for generating power on flats or climbing and only the steepest uphills had me choking up onto the rivet or standing to hump over the apex. I'd expect any shop would catch the issue but in my experience, this spec choice will put a percentage of their customers at risk of injury. ... Main reasons are price and Shimano drivetrain at comparable weight for an alloy frame. Min-Maxing The bottom bracket/main pivot junction is my favourite part of the frame. It doesn't measure up to their claim that it's designed to be "ridden in the most demanding of conditions" but it could. 62,178 . That's not the same thing as saying I wouldn't love to try an Angleset in there just for sh*ts-and-giggles, but set-up with around 23% sag front and 28-30% sag rear the geometry is Shore-worthy. Photo: AM, SRAM cranksets are okay and the DUB BBs are a significant improvement by most accounts. Equally, they've chosen not to go the splash-the-cash route by hiring a long list of known riders like other online brands of which YT and Cube are probably the best examples. Beef up the tires and brakes and service the fork and this is potentially an entirely different review even with having to wear my Camelbak. Would love it much more with more aggressive brakes. Fox DPX2 Performance with an EVOL air can is another spec highlight at the price. That's a real odd thing because the systems should be 'simple'. There is a vocal majority of riders who want the option to carry a bottle inside the front triangle of their frame and those riders are automatically going to scratch the Siskiu off their list because it has no bottle mounts and no room to add them. As Kenny pointed out in the comments on the first look, that 470mm seat tube is not going to make every rider my height happy. Along with the (sadly) usual cheap but required upgrades. I'd like to see a 170mm on the larger sizes. I'd love to here some impressions on it. My seated pedaling position is right about perfect on the Siskiu and I’d only need a longer Reach if the STA was steeper.Â. Introducing the all new Siskiu D7 – an all round XC trail bike that can handle everything from your fun local trails to all day Alpine epics. I've used both Magura and TRP rotors and noticed no difference.Â. That's crazy talk. For me that means Schwalbe Super Gravity, Maxxis DoubleDown, WTB Tough Casing, etc. I get personal preference, but I can't imagine a rider who would find it comfortable in any way even with a ham-chamois in their pants. In this case, it's 2800 USD for the package. Curious, if you don't mind saying, how much do you weight and what are you comparing them too? I think Cam did a great job of highlighting the GX Eagle package, so I'm going to say it shifted very well in all situations, although I always try not to shift under heavy loads, and I think that, while I'm not creating a lot of black and white over it, it's the highlight of the N9 in terms of presenting value in a 2800 USD bike. This may be an inflammatory argument, but if a rider doesn't need that much tire, they may not need this much bike.*. It's clean and simple to ship a bike with tubes, but this is a little detail that costs nothing at the factory and will be appreciated by customers. I don’t think you can look at Reach isolated from effective top tube length. The M and M/L are where the bike jumps from 27” to 29” wheels. Reviews, ratings, specifications, weight, price and more for the 2019 Polygon Siskiu N9 29 Bike I fully support the shock orientation of the Siskiu, mind you. I keep the saddle slammed forward of course but it's not terrible.Â, What this tell me is I'm probably more susceptible to how STA affects rear suspension operation/sag that anything else.Â, I think that with a long dropper you have to relearn a bit. The Siskiu and Alpine Trail both come stock with a 51mm offset fork but I've been riding the Marin with a 44mm offset which makes a notable difference in slowing down the handling with the sub-50mm stem. Indonesian brand Polygon has stepped up to the plate for 2019, launching an all-alloy long-travel trail bike - the Siskiu N9 - that looks ready to do the business right out of the box. I find 75-76° allows power on flats and regular climbs and then bending my elbows and sliding forward on the saddle gives me the extra power I need when the grade is closer to ascending a wall. I don’t disagree though that designing the platform around 170mm with the knowledge that some riders will go longer and some shorter that the seat tubes could be a bit shorter in each size. Check out these popular Dual-Suspension Bikes! But competitive or long-distance cross-country riders will be … DH stoppers or don't make the bike is par for this category. Mind you, I’m not a professional racer (or a racer at all). Get the latest and breaking news from Polygon Bikes. And geometry is free! Polygon's welds and forgings look great all the way around. It should, it could, and it doesn't. I would like to see every company going to size-specific seat angles that get steeper as they go up in size but until that pipedream becomes reality I hope at least a few companies don't jump on the 77-78° bandwagon for M-L sized frames. But, at 2800 USD, with a full GX drivetrain, and looking at what else is out there, it's quite possible that a smart home wrench can pick up the Polygon, service the forks with fresh seals, swap to a set of powerful brakes, and install their preferred beefy rubber option and still make out with a lot of bike for the investment. Guerrilla Gravity and Marin demonstrating mid-sized bottle carrying with a couple of different shock orientations. Dear Uncle Dave: How do you Keep a Secret Bike, Secret? The Fox Rythm fork was okay at best and the brakes were under-gunned even with a 203mm rotor and a significant pad upgrade but the Siskiu's potential still shone through on every ride. November 6, 2020 by Admin Polygonbikes. Given there similarity it’s hardly surprising that both bikes have similar geometry too, but the Polygon actually has as steeper seat … Polygon Bikes Siskiu N9 2019. Love data? They are distributed monthly and used to weight your vote on polls. This wedge is unfortunately and accurately named the 'Assault.' Also I don’t think it’s $1300 better. Oh, and before we go any further, no, no it does not fit a water bottle in the main triangle. Those straight lines come at a cost. Not the first time I've heard a similar thing about TRP brakes in general (Quadiems particularly a few folks mentioned it to me). Posted in: 2019 Polygon Siskiu N9 29 Bike $ 2,999.00. At 2800 USD, it sports an excellent SRAM GX drivetrain, a very well-received Fox rear shock, Schwalbe's Magic Mary tires in a soft compound, a fork with Fox logos on the lowers, and a bunch of other stuff that adds up to create a complete bicycle. Siskiu, I like the Magic Mary, I don't even mind the Soft compound v. the Super Soft, but please give me the support of that Super Gravity sidewall. Gear, You can absolutely. I’m happy a bit wider or a bit narrower but that’s my happy spot. Polygon siskiu D5 M 27.5 The N9 jumps up to the 4 pistons TRP Slate hydraulic discs. The suspension layout mates very well with the Fox DPX2 shock. Luckily I discovered this torquing hard on the bar climbing out of the saddle but I can imagine more perilous situations. Tested: Polygon Siskiu T8 - FLOW - Blog Industry Reviews Tested: Polygon Siskiu T8 - FLOW POLYGON UR: AT MARIBOR WORLD CUPS. Tags: The aren't a bad deal and may be a great deal if they ever hit nashbar. EAGLE, They are terrifying. I know what you mean on the ETT thing but honestly I don't get super hung up on ETT to be honest, because seats seem to generally have enough rail adjustment to get me where I want. Enduro Bikes . GX, Function is okay on the 150mm house-branded dropper. The TRP Slate are great feeling brakes that bring a decent bite once the stock pads are upgraded to a set of sintered Shimano pads - specifically the fin-less Saint/Zee pads. Put another way, if Polygon is going to spec TRP brakes then the Quadiems are mandatory on a 160mm travel bike. Photo - Deniz Merdano. And then I'd end up reconsidering how negative I felt about certain elements of the bike. Effective seat angle for a XXL bike with 525mm Reach probably should be 81-degrees. And hey, look at all the upcoming reviews it could have been in. But despite being slightly longer, I think because it only sags up front, the STA feels super steep and I actually run the seat well rearward or center. The Polygon Siskiu N9 is an aluminium full-suspension enduro bike with a combination of parts and technology designed for the most demanding conditions. The house brand Entity cockpit and wheels seem totally fine. I had plenty of adjustment left with the stock 150mm dropper post and could have run most of the 170mm options on the market. Indonesian bicycle manufacturer, Polygon, is ready to unleash its newest full suspension mountain bike for 2021; the redesigned and reengineered Siskiu T. Sitting smack-bang in the middle between the Siskiu D (Downcountry) and the Siskiu N (Enduro) the Siskiu T … Thread starter Crunch; Start date Jan 7, 2019; Crunch Squid. S$1,200 Share 78. Shimano four-piston sintered brake pads and an 8" rotor are mandatory upgrades. As much value as the Polygon Siskiu N9 presents, these hidden costs need to be accounted for. The Siskiu platform fits my 5'9" frame really well, which leads me to classify it as more of a medium-large. The 51mm offset fork makes perfect sense if I'm sizing down to a medium and running a 60-70mm stem. I laughed at DUB 28.99mm cranks too, but the bottom bracket life is killing anything SRAM was doing with 24mm or 30mm spindles. The potential that's unrealized with this bike is both impressive at the price and depressing at the same time. I think there's a strong argument that a brake like the Slate has no business on a 6" travel 29er. Right away I appreciated the wheel size considerations with small and medium models delivering 170mm of travel and 27" hoops, and medium, large, and extra-large bikes sporting 160mm of suspension and 29" wheels. Frame ALX XC 120MM TRAVEL (27.5”) / 120MM TRAVEL (29”), TAPER H/T TA BOOST Fork ROCKSHOX RECON RL, 15X100MM, 120MM (27.5”) / 120MM (29”) TRAVEL Rear Shock ROCKS Chat to Buy It was sticky off the top and never seemed to break in. Long travel 29ers, like the 160mm Siskiu, need DH brakes and aggressive rubber. Period. I even swapped the master cylinders around with no change so that would infer that it was a caliper issue. Same story as the Polygon. Yeah, that’s a beyond lame spec choice that makes you wonder if anyone at Ibis rides those bikes as intended. Push on the saddle and it's obvious the Siskiu drives the shock as nicely as any linkage-actuated single pivot and it initializes more easily than many of the suspension designs optimized around water bottle placement. Compare forks, shocks, wheels and other components on current and past MTB’s. Tags: Anyone got a Polygon Siskiu? At the minimum, a purchaser should remove the grips, spray them liberally with hairspray, and then reinstall them. It's either the Siskiu N9 or the Canyon Spectral AL 6.0, but that thing isn't available until late April. I'll swap the fork out on the Siskiu N9 at some point in the test period for a truer apples-apples comparison but with a short stem I think the short offset will be a winner on this platform. It's easy to anticipate two complaints about this bike. Siskiu, Similar enough in fact that I'd say most of the difference in the basic fit comes down to fork offset. The 4 piston brake will give you better bite on your rotors, for those days when your fully on it and leaving braking till the last minute. Same.  And I do a fair bit of "not mtb" riding, which probably matters in terms of what I've adjusted over the years (decades). I’ll get into that more in my review but wheelbase really is the new headangle. With an eye to the budget, I'd like to see Polygon swap these Slates out for a Code R or Magura MT5 system. I'd definitely have zero complaints if this bike came with the MT5 (or Trail Sport) or the Code R in terms of balancing a budget and braking power. A bladder-style sealed damper (RockShox, Manitou, Cane Creek, DVO, etc) makes more sense in my experiences. And nearly cover everyone. Most people 6'0" want more than 456mm of reach, but sure as hell don't want a 520mm seat tube. Bike companies, you don't have to ship bikes setup for tubeless... Photo: AM, ...but for customers' sake, tape the rims and include some tubeless valves. I'm actually a bit shocked the bike doesn't come pre-taped for tubeless and with a pair of valves included in the packaging. Speaking of, there's a lot of folks riding Boundary these days. I'd prefer to see 29 x 2.6" rubber, but even staying with the narrower rubber, the Siskiu is beyond worthy of tires with better sidewall support. 160mm of balanced travel for 29″ frames, and 170mm front and back on 27.5″ models. Select options. There are a fair few moves I ride on my personal 150mm+ 29er, a Marin Alpine Trail, that I wouldn't hit on the Siskiu N9... ...but that came down to component choices entirely. Huge selection of mountain bikes from brands such as … Ran pads from my good set so I knew it wasn't issue with the pads. Photo: Andrew Major (AM). 2019 polygon siskiu n8 - specs: frame alx am / 160mm travel (29”), taper h/t fork rockshox yari rc solo air boost 15x110mm, 160mm (29”) travel rear shock fox performance float dpx2 e2e:205x65, 3 pos lever, lv evol, hardware:8mmx25mm & trunnion head set zs 44/28.6 | zs 56/40 stem entity xpert, alloy e:45mm r:7deg bb:31.8mm handlebar If it took a water bottle in the main triangle I'd be all over using it as a test mule because with the right component choices and a 170mm dropper for the steepest stuff, it has the potential to be one of my all-time favourite suspension bikes. Select options. Still, I think for a lot of riders it is a good phrase to live and shop by. An aggressive, agile, and fast bike for the rider who wants to defeat their personal limitations all … Discussion. This Siskiu N9 was delivered to me built so I can't comment on how they come out of the box for consumers. Overall the sizing is kinda bizarre for most people unless you like 70mm+ stems or 100mm droppers. Unfortunately the basic Fox Rhythm GRIP fork doesn't come with SKF seals. There are plenty of proven options for basic OE saddles that will work for a large cross-section of riders. NSMB's First Impressions: Polygon Siskiu N9 29er Siskiu N The 150-160mm travel 29'er is quickly becoming the bread-and-butter platform for medium-and-taller riders in … Considering the price, some riders will have money left for upgrades. Reviews / Enduro Bikes. The Polygon has amazing potential as longer travel 29er platform. Well, except I wish this was the new 5-spd version. I will reiterate one more time that in the case of the 'ASSault' saddle, no matter how leathery your contact patch or meaty your thigh muscles, you aren't going to want to sit on it or clamp it between your legs. Free shipping on orders over $50 (continental U.S. only). But what about price? Bikes - All Mountain, > " I'd call the size large frame a medium-large and some larger frame sizes are needed to accommodate taller riders", They'd need to change the proportions. I give bike companies a wide berth on saddle choice because touch points are a matter of preference but I'll bet if one hundred riders tried this seat none of them would choose it. How much do grips that stay put, and sintered pads actually add to the shop floor price? There's a reason that my favourite, classic, best-feeling suspension bikes like the first edition Knolly Delirium-T and 2008 Specialized SX Trail use a similar shock configuration. 2019 Polygon Siskiu T8 27.5 Bike $ 2,499.00. It's one of the only dimensions you can easily alter with no real effect on any other parameters.Â, I have two fairly new school bikes and an older one.Â, I have a large 2020 ripmo AF -475 reach, 76 deg STA, 632 ETT. With updated geo/leverage and 3K USD starting point including good suspension, I figured it would fit right in with some of these recent lower-price-point reviews. Polygon Siskiu Riders wanting a current, but mainstream, geometry experience will want to size up and push their saddle forward. Polygon has quickly developed and refined its mountain bike line-up in just a matter of years, no doubt helped by the sponsoring of a world-cup gravity racing team. Community Points reward posters, commenters, and moderators for their contributions to the subreddit. I was very happy with the fit of the size large Siskiu but it is indicative, with modern geometry, of how necessary it is for companies to add more sizes as the range of optimum stem lengths has really shrunk to 35mm-50mm stems. It's a 160mm 29'er so it doesn't exactly leap forward with every touch of the pedals but I've never ridden a bike that could deliver the best of both worlds with most longer travel machines either feeling a bit harsh off the top or requiring the use of some kind of damper support (Climb Switch / ProPedal / etc) to be rideable up steep grades. FWIW I was happy with my set of Slate T4s even on the stock red pads, they were better with Shimano metal pads -- think Zee like power with more linear delivery and modulation; better than Guide R and T I've tried in the past.  I had a second set of these brakes come OEM on a bike that was not good at all (especially the front), even with known 'good' pads and a full brake fluid purge and bleed. If I was going to pay for a damper upgrade from Fox it would be FIT4. With this Siskiu N9, Polygon is taking the most common path to demonstrate value, or at least the perception of value, by combining a quality aluminum frame, GX Eagle shifting, and Fox Suspension at the lowest price. I do think with bike fit by stem length basically reduced to 15mm (35-50mm stems) that more sizes are needed in every companies’ range. Chat Make Offer. Polygon is available in the USA through bikesonline.com and originally this review process was going to include a build-up experience. I came to a point where I had simply invested all the time I was willing to put into this bike; however, if the rear brake was externally routed I wouldn't have been able to resist a stopper swap because with my Vigilante up-front I think that would be the difference that pushes the Siskiu into being one of the best buys under 3K USD. Only slightly less notable than the lack of an in-triangle mounting location for a water bottle is that the geometry chart indicates every size is a bit short on reach and the effective seat angles are too slack, particularly in large and XL. The tube set, forgings, and welds all look good as does the matte green paint with orange accents. I know folks who are hoping longer than 200mm posts are coming and folks that have gone back to 150mm.Â. Look at that... there’s room for 6x sizes in between. There's a bunch of caveats to list from after sale support to getting the bike properly set up at a dealer, etc. It's really not a big deal to adapt back and forth but the more steady and planted feel of the Marin is preferable. As with the Santa Cruz Carbon Chameleon I tested, I'm certain that the lackluster initial performance of the basic Fox 36 Rhythm comes down to the lack of SKF main seals - the single biggest upgrade Fox has made to their suspension forks over the years. Features, It's just that it can be a f***ing terrifying prospect trying to reign in those big wheels when the terrain gets steep and deep. Back to that 75° effective seat angle for a moment. It's a long travel, 160mm front & rear to be precise, 29'er Enduro bike that looks pretty damn good and has neutrally-modern geometry. When standing in attack position, I had lots of room to move around and never felt like I was fighting the bike in either slow technical or faster descending situations. As a big fan of industry-standard R&D (Rip-Off & Duplicate), I'd point Polygon towards ridegg.com for some ideas on how to squeeze a bottle into the main triangle on the next edition of the Siskiu without changing the shock configuration. I don’t know if there are any plans to review the AF. Mega-steep STA makes even very long Reach bikes feel small seated. Moving on to the good stuff, the Polygon Siskiu uses its DPX2 rear shock beautifully with a smooth-off-the-top shock activation thanks to the shock orientation. Traction and support. I learned quickly that the stock grips are a terrible liability for a company relying on the average home mechanic to assemble their bikes. *One factor here is weight, and at 160-165 lbs, this editor is generally fine on EXO, TCS Light and other mid weight casings - Ed. Where I would be dropping more paper is a basic fork service and new seals right out of the box. At a shop, the basic service and seal kit will be about a 100 CAD upgrade. I don't know if I'll ever come to terms with internal routing - especially internal brake routing - but the Siskiu is pretty clean. Saddle spec is not hard, if in doubt just follow Rocky Mountain's lead and put a WTB Volt on every mountain bike you sell from $1000 to $11,000+ and at least a significant percentage of your customers will be happy. 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